Comments on: Rep. David Clark is a cheater, a fraud and a true Utah Republican Leader! [redundant]

By: Utah Legislature and Fair Boundaries « A Liberal Mormon

Utah Legislature and Fair Boundaries « A Liberal Mormon — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:55:18 +0000

[...] insulates incumbents from checks. When a poll on his own website went in favor of the initiative, it mysteriously disappeared. And most recently, Republican legislators attending “Conservative Day” at the [...]

By: Misty Fowler

Misty Fowler — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:28:15 +0000

The poll wasn’t gamed. We did nothing to prevent the other point of view from being expressed. Lots of non-lefties follow me on Twitter, and could have voted. The issue seems to be that Clark didn’t like the results, and isn’t willing to talk about them. He can’t stand the heat, and might consider staying out of the kitchen.

By: JM Bell

JM Bell — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:08:15 +0000

Hey – he has a public website – he is a public official – he published a poll – it got talked about – people visited and voted. So – 1. – it’s not my fault that vote went that way but I think that it was honest – and 2. – it’s not my fault that the right side of the bloghive didn’t rush to support gerrymandering – even though they I don’t think they’d do that even if they had cared enough to pay attention.

Gaming the poll suggests cheating and I take a certain exception to that.

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:46:29 +0000

Jesse-

While you do have somewhat of a valid point, the fact of the matter is that internet polls are gamed LL THE TIME and it’s not our fault that NOONE from the other side caught on.

But, I wonder how many people are actually on Speaker Clark’s side on this…..

By: Jesse Harris

Jesse Harris — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:11:36 +0000

C’mon Jeff. I’m not dumb. It was sitting at a whole 9 votes when I looked at it this morning, then you, Bob, Misty, and Jason all talk about it on Twitter, Facebook and blogs. Suddenly, your preferred solution is at a landslide with over ten times as many votes. It doesn’t take a genius to put together what happened. I’d bet Rep. Clark took it down to not further indulge you.

I support an independent redistricting committee, but I think trolling the websites of legislators isn’t doing the idea any favors. If nothing, it hurts us. Let’s try and find more constructive ways to push our vision forward.

By: Travis

Travis — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:46:25 +0000

I think Jesse is right on this one.

By: JM Bell

JM Bell — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:57:12 +0000

Or – PEOPLE heard about it and went and voted.

Stuff the ballot box? Just like the internet left did when we voted down vouchers? A bad idea is a bad idea REGARDLESS of political affiliation. It’s fanatic political ideology that makes him think that everyone in the world was out of line the last time we redistricted.

We make these noises because we care about the process and we’re aware of the history on this topic. Clark is also aware and, imho, is looking forward to repeating the same process of ten years ago.

By: Jesse Harris

Jesse Harris — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:52:22 +0000

I imagine he pulled it because the left side of the Bloghive got wind of it and more-or-less tried to stuff the ballot box in an effort to embarrass him.